08October2000 #0041.html

Change My Mind

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Dear Paul and Kate, Melanie and Jared Wright, Bridget, Ben and Sarah, Sara, Heather and Nate Pace, Audrey, Rachel, and Matt via hardcopy,

cc: file, Tony Hafen, Pauline Nelson via mail, Sara and Des Penny, Claude and Katherine Warner, Lloyd and Luana Warner, Diane Cluff, Maxine Shirts via mail.

Welcome to "Thoughtlets." This is a weekly review of an idea, belief, thought, or words that will hopefully be of some benefit to you, my children, with an electronic copy to on-line extended family members. Any of you can ask me not to clutter your mail box at any time.

"Although it has been said of me I will never change my mind, I have always reserve the right to change my mind. This has been one of those weeks when I have had the opportunity to do so on several different occassions.

Melanie and Andrea, I apologize for not listening to the two of you when you told me the newsletter idea wouldn't fly. I feel strongly it is important to document the ideas we have worked on over the last few decades, and I was encouraged by a Vice-President at Exxon-Mobil Upstream Research and a Corporate Officer at Shell Oil, and started to believe my own stuff. However, I sent a copy of the first edition of the Walden 3-D Journal to 44 of my closest and most trusted friends, and when the response from those who wrote back was unanimous in the negative, I decided I needed to change my mind. It is hard to eat crow and admit I was wrong (especially when I still believe this is an important contribution to society). So I figure the best way to proceed is to share parts of three of the most direct responses, and the ones which had the most impact in helping me to change my mind.

The first to respond was Tracy Stark, a geophysicist I first met when I gave a talk at the University of Texas at Austin back when I worked for Landmark Graphics, and who became a good friend when he worked at Exxon Research. We did a couple of SEG Research Workshops together during the late 1980's. He was one of the participants in the Walden 3-D Lynk teleconference on 18 Dec 1990. When Tracy left Exxon, I got him a non-paying job with Bowen Loftin at the University of Houston, and helped him work out an intellectual property agreement with Arco so he could develop interpretation software and still work for Arco. Ben and Sarah met Tracy and Laura when we went to dinner together in Dallas. They have a baby girl named Veronica, a few weeks older than Ethan. Among other things Tracy wrote:

`A critical review Roice, I have attached an edited version of your W3D Journal article. I have been critical as requested. You might want to get a root beer, take a dip in the pool, or maybe have a hot chocolate before reading it. A few "nits" to start out with. 1) In your e-mail I think you misspelled backbone (Bacbone(SM) - but maybe this is a new -let). 2) The files you imply that can be found at http://www.walden3d.com/network are not readily available - If there are links to these documents on this page, I could not find them. 3) If you are serious about it being confidential you should not send it out under a mass mailing as you did. If you sent it to me at Arco I am suppose to send it right back to you without reading it. Others might think that you are not serious about the confidentiality, and therefore other things that you send or provide to them are not really confidential. In reading what you are trying to do I keep remembering one of your comments. "I never thought of giving it away" Roice Nelson to Tracy Stark concerning the differential success of Netscape and HyperMedia Exchange shortly after Netscape went public. I don't know if this applies in this case - but new newsletters or journals normally give several issues out for free to get people hooked. Most start out at a low cost and then slowly raise their price instead of lowering them because of a large number of subscribers. If you can get a large number of subscribers at a large price - it must be priced correctly. Who is your target audience? Those that make ~$110k/year? For most geophysicists, I think that $1200/year is too high - Geophysics and the Leading Edge only cost $70/year and it appears as if the total information content is much higher in these journals than in yours. You are claiming to provide confidential information that others will not have - but is this information that a practicing geophysicist (or other consultant) will be able to use today, or are they still things that are under development? You need to work hard on what value someone will get out of your Journal. Right now I don't think I could get $300 worth of information from the next 10 issues. (Particularly given my uncertain future economic situation.) What am I missing? From your side I see that you will need to have probably 150-200 subscribers (180k -240k/year) to make this an economically sound venture if it is your main source of income (which I doubt). You are doing this electronically. Netscape and others have, unfortunately for you, created an environment in which most people think that information content from the web should be free. You get free downloads. There are free newsgroups and free list servers. While at Arco I had access to an electronic newsletter that was put out periodically. Arco paid for the service. I went to the site once or twice - but found little value in it. It is not something that I would have paid for. Maybe you should consider doing a "Shareware Journal" (did I just coin a new phrase?) Drop the confidential notice, keep the copyright. Send it to who ever wants it. If they find value in what they have read they will then send you some money for that issue or hire you to do some work for them. If someone is on your mailing list for a year and they never send any money, hire your, or contribute ideas - drop them from the list. I think you should consider the Journal as a marketing tool for Walden 3D or the NetWork-of-Minds not a source of income. My opinion. On the NetWork-of-Minds (NoM), I have a few comments / questions. I don't think that it is a good idea to limit your clients to only those who subscribe to your journal. Maybe give those that subscribe a discount on services. I was surprised by a few things I found on your ../network/index.html page. "..the NetWork does not believe fairness is a principle.", and "To not taking unreasonable advantage of a fellow member of the NetWork." So the NetWork is a group that practices discrimination and does consider itself an "equal opportunity employer". Is this legal? It is clearly "Politically Incorrect". Furthermore it condones members taking advantage of other members, so long as they do not do it "unreasonably", what ever that means. The detail you want in the resume is too much. Most people have not captured that information, and probably most clients would not want the lat-long of their projects published on a web site. The pay structure looks like an Avon pyramid scheme - I don't know about giving up 20% of my consulting fee - I guess if I am satisfied with the 80% it would be ok. Bringing in 6 people will effectively let me retire so long as they are working - not bad. I could not accept Note 1 - If I join the NetWork I can only do projects that the NetWork doles out to me? - And the NetWork does not claim to be fair and is willing to take advantage of me? I don't think so! As far as the advertisement - how does one "apply in person" when all that is provide is an email address? Anyone who can do that does not need a teacher! I have probably said more than enough for now. Tracy'

I responded to all of his points, and if anyone expresses any interest I will include the rebuttal. The point, particularly for Melanie and Andrea, is I do change my mind, specifically when there is a good solid argument made that I should. In another e-mail Tracy wrote:

`Roice, Veronica says hello - she is on my lap "helping" me write this. She keeps pushing the computer away with her feet. Always something new. I have a few comments on your subscription agreement. First, I expect that you will not get even one large company to sign this agreement as it is written. Second, I could not find the value for the Receiving Party in signing this agreement. The only thing that I could see which could be potentially constructive to a receiver is section 4 which is a vague potential of mutual development. In your first journal you state that "The Receiving Party is free to use Information in the W3D Journal for Internal Projects, as long as the Information is treated the same as if it were Internal Proprietary Information." I cannot see where this right is given someone who signs your subscription agreement. Third, why do you have clause 6.C.ii? It seems strange to me that a receiving party should have to give information from your journal to any of these agencies. In this same section you should require a Receiver to give you at least 5 business days, maybe even 10, prior to making any disclosure. You should have the right to attempt their disclosure. Fourth, in section 7 you spelled "such" as "sucn". Fifth, I believe that in section 9 you mean to say "...shall terminate on the first to occur of:", instead of "...shall terminate on the latter to occur of:". As written, until you give notice that the obligations of confidentiality have expired, they have not. (This is the reason I said no large companies would sign it as written.) Sixth, how would I be able to use the information contained in your journal if I were to be the Editor's, editor? I expect to have a small interpretation/visualization service company. I will be developing some software for in house use, and some to market or place in other products such as VoxelGeo, GeoProbe, and CoRe Explorer. Would I be able to use what I learn from the Journal to help build the software that I sell? Tracy P.S. I worked on your journal again. Attached are my comments. It is a word file let me know if you can read it.'

I am attaching these extended e-mails to show by example the value of networking, of getting and listening to the opinions of other people when you are in a situation where I need to swallow my pride and change my mind. Specifically there is tremendous value in having friends whom you have helped, and who know you will help them in the future, and who you can call on for advise when you are looking to make a major change in your life.

Todd Staheli has been a good friend ever since his first night as Varsity Scout Coach when Ben and Paul were showing off for the Norwegian girl across the street while playing football in his front yard, hit heads and both ended up in the emergency room in Katy with totally bloodied T-shirts and several stitches in their heads. In fact, Andrea, Rachel, Matt, and I watched the last session of Conference at their house and had a wonderful dinner with them Sunday evening. This was why I didn't get this week's Thoughtlet finished on Sunday. (Besides the fact Rachel and I watched the Mummy when we got home.) Todd's e-mail mirrored Tracy's:

`Roice, I have been thinking of you for some time now and have felt the need to share a meal and some hours of reflective, mind-extending time. Can I make a couple of suggestions regarding a time (you decide or propose something else): * Sunday afternoon for the 2nd session of conference at our house to be followed by dinner * October 13th or 14th (Friday or Saturday) for dinner either home * Lets meet the ExxonMobil person over lunch sometime. These dinners are too infrequent and to enjoyable for distractions. I'm at a loss for words regarding Continuum. Tell me more over dinner. I've never gone through the process of building something and then watching as it is taken away (rightly or wrongly). Since I have trouble classifying you (though I don't feel the need to) I wonder if this isn't a presentation/packaging issue? Just a thought. I have also spent about 2 hours going over the materials you referenced in your note. First, I respect and will honor the confidentiality commits associated with this material, now and always. Second, you asked for some comments on the Journal. Who is your audience? From a professional perspective, I know of no one other than H. Roice Nelson, Jr. I who is interested in the range of topics you plan to address. The writing assumes that the reader has a very advanced understanding of concepts and ideas which I am fairly certain is not that widespread (what I mean to say is that I could not understand much of what was written, but I felt that if I found 3-4 smart people from across my field of friends and resources, between us we might be able to sort through the article). Roice, there is such range, depth and assumed knowledge latent in the article that I am concerned that (1) either your target audience is too small, or (2) when you connect with someone in a corporate environment who is interested that will have difficulty explaining and justifying the subscription. The Journal feels a bit like a subscription to an "open topic consultation agreement". And while I might like it, I would probably have a difficult time justifying it or categorizing it for the minions of accountants and bureaucrats which infest the process of business and corporate life (a bit melodramatic, I admit, but you get the drift). I would simply remind you that you think differently than most people (and by most I would say 99.99% of the world). Your range of interest, knowledge and understanding is unsurpassed by anyone I know. To find a paying audience I think you need to focus and simplify your offering. The other thing which occurs to me is that maybe you should also be networking and talking with people associated with national government, endowments, institutes and fellowships. Do you ever think about teaching? Z. Todd Staheli'

Todd is a nice guy. And his kind words encourage me to change my mind. However, the last example I will share in this Thoughtlet, gets right to the point. Rick Duran first consulted for Walden 3-D in 1990. We flew him down from Chicago. He was an acquaintance of Ray Gardner's. He has been on the mailing and phone list ever since. I have refered to Rick in several Thoughtlets (../9803.html, ../9935.html, ../9949.html, and 0039.html). Rick is an economist, and he cuts through the chaff. He wrote:

`Roice -- OK, it's all happening so fast. Let me see if I understand. You are no longer at Continuum Resources. Unclear whether Continuum is still in existence. Instead of seeking, what my wife calls a real job, you have drifted back to the love of your life work, Walden 3D. And in spite of what you acknowledge, and I can confirm for you, that everything on the web is free, you have picked a subscription rate that bears no resemblance to market forces. I am always amazed on what people in Texas think will sell. Do I wish you luck you, or ask where I can join. I can't help thinking of the author of Ecclesiastes, who said there is nothing new under the sun. Let me see if I can't be as realistic as my optimistic self can be. [1] I currently receive -- for free -- at least three newsletters and movements that substantially cover the topics you want to sell under a subscription model. They include: UpFront.Ezine, Cad-List, and VREfresh, not to mention the other twenty Building and Construction related newsletters. -- all free [2] The most expensive, pay-for-view newsletter, from the REIT - real estate investment trust arm of the booming stock-market is only bold enough to ask for $395 per YEAR for their weekly newsletter, but since then continually send me free trial subscription, I get about 50% of the issues FREE by continuing to say NO. [3] As to object-oriented [kit-of-parts] designing, there are at least five new efforts, each funded at the millions of dollars level, coming to market. [4] as to the two-step data collection and implementation model, there are gaping holes when compared with the traditionally accepted approach. [5] as to out-site assembly as a cost-saving and productivity tool, the industry has pushed this along some, and understands it well, and its limits. [6] as to the automation of documentation -- most AEC and for that matter manufacturing teams state-of-the-art thinking is beyond focusing on how to produce drawings. The focus is elsewhere. [7] as to the computing power, it is there, as is the modeling power, as is the data. [8] as to the decision-making approach, is has always had some structural flaws, based on your limited understanding of the AEC industry. Which is not to say that a little cross-industry fertilization isn't beneficial. It's just that W3D's decision construct has always been overly simplistic and in application, not very useful. And I could go on...but suffice it to say that other that not having viable business model, a state-of-the-art conceptual model, or a marketable product or service, I see no problems with your new avenue. Which probably means in the new economy you have a viable idea. But for an unknowing VC source as a startup idea, or an industry group hoping to blaze new paths, but not on the newsletter of proprietary knowledge model. There is nothing state-of-the-art there, and if there was, no one would want to sit on it for 24 months. Understand, we have been watching the AEC industry seriously for over 25 years and most recently trying to see who was going to break out of the pack for this new economy. It is currently a very crowded field and the crowd funded by some serious VC money -- $100,000,000 plus in the first quarter of 2000 alone, has a better mousetrap then what you are offering. You have had a wonderful life, and are among the few who have built a rocket and ridden it to the moon. You have always worn your LG disappointments fairly close to the surface, and have hoped that a second rocket ride would exonerate your position. The list of two rocket riders is even shorter. Come to peace with your history and go off on those other more traditional later in life options -- like teaching. I would suggest that you plant yourself firmly at SUU, and cover your overhead under a visiting professorship. Your students will appreciate your real-life experience and wonderful ideas. Attach yourself firmly to the Technology Center concept and get Scott off of square zero with funding it. With that underway, and every-so-often you can test the boundaries of the industry and galaxy. And live long and prosper. I regret I do not have the eleemosynary time and you do not have the funding source to spend the weeks and months explaining each of the above conclusions. With Much Love and Appreciation for the Kindness you have shown me and Archinomics over the years, I remain respectfully yours; F R Rick Duran'

It is really easy to self-justify our choices, and sometimes the best thing which can happen is for someone to be frank with us. It takes a self-confident person to be willing to risk friendship (and business) for truth. Again, I won't include my detailed response to Rick, unless some of you request it. I have always tried to be frank, and I appreciate it when someone isn't making excuses, and calls a spade a spade. I share these notes with you because they fit the theme of what it takes to change my mind.

Melanie and three Sara(h)'s in my life have recently given me insights about why I these thoughtlets turn out like they do. Sara Ellyn told Melanie, who wrote to me:

`Sara said the other day that sometimes when I am talking, I will talk through my thoughts to someone and she said, "kind of like dad in his thoughtlets"... anyway, I just went off for a little while there and now I can see why it is so easy for you to write so much sometimes in your thoughtlets.'

Sara Penny encouraged me to get a real job (0037.html), and often I use this forum to attempt to encourage those I love to do things which will be of most benefit to them. Sarah Nelson got me with an e-mail titled: `Ethan's Walking.' As I read the title, a feeling of failure as a Grandpa swept over me. After all, I have only seen Ethan once. It made me want to change my mind about how often we go to Dallas. As several of you know, Sarah went on to say:

`Just kidding! BUT.......... He rolled over from his belly onto his back yesterday!!! Isn't that exciting. He hasn't quite figured out going from his back to his belly. He'll get his head, hips, and legs turned towards the floor. But that one arm on the floor is a little speed bump he just can't get over!! Last night, he was on the living room floor (Andrea's blanket to be exact) and he was facing me... the next thing I know he was facing the television (complete 180 turn)... then a couple minutes later he was almost turned back towards me... He has been moving around a lot these past couple of days. Sara and Roice are coming up this weekend, so we'll take pictures, video, etc. and send them out next week! Take care, Sarah & Ben'

In terms of the week, it was interesting. Most of the days were spent filing, sorting through things, organizing stuff, and some writing. There were a couple of hours here and there talking to friends who are struggling in their marriages.

Monday night I went to Climbers. Tuesday Sam LeRoy and I met with Dick Coons about his South Texas prospects. Wednesday Chris Schmidt and the Teacher's Quorum did the combined activity. It was a Special Olympics, including cake decorating, basketball throws, hockey shootoffs (I was the goalie with a Jason type mask), and stroller races. The kids had a great time, although a table collapsed and landed on Rachel's leg. She is OK. Thursday the missionaries came to dinner (we have a new Elder from Long Island and he knows Mi Yung Lee referenced in stanza I.28 of Prime Words), I had a personal priesthood interview about home teaching, and I got a haircut. Friday Dick Coons and I presented his prosects to Mike Dunn. In the evening Rachel had some friends sleepover at the house. Andrea, Matt, a friend he later spent the night with, and I went to see the movie The Titans. I highly recommend it to all of you.

Saturday started with choir practice, and we went to all five sessions of conference (Andrea started the first one at the house on the Internet, however there was a call from one of the lawyers about getting permission from the State Department to work on Mr. Finstad's data from Iran, and she brought me the note so I could call him back during a song). Matt and I went to Priesthood Session together, and then we went to CiCi's for pizza afterwards. I miss Rob, and being able to take Roice, Ben, and Paul with me. It would also be nice to have Jared and Nate here, to go to priesthood with us. I encourage each of you to read the Prophet's words about the profound influence of how our children turn out, and his strong words about divorce in the Priesthood Session of General Conference. It was nice to watch the last session of conference with the Staheli's in The Woodlands. Michelle fixed a wonderful chicken and sausage gumbo, pumpkin and apple pies, orange mandrine jello, and french bread. It is good to have friends who we can talk to, church leader's who give us sound guidance, and others who are willing to step up to the plate and help us have the courage to change our mind."

I'm interested in sharing weekly a "thoughtlet" (little statements of big thoughts which mean a lot to me) with you because I know how important the written word can be. I am concerned about how easy it is to drift and forget our roots and our potential among all of distractions of daily life. To download any of these thoughtlets go to http://www.walden3d.com/thoughtlets or e-mail me at rnelson@walden3d.com.

With all my love,
Dad
(H. Roice Nelson, Jr.)

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Copyright © 2000 H. Roice Nelson, Jr.